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Quentin Hardy's avatar

Appreciated, and I will flatter myself that you are trying to subscribe. If so, please hit the "subscribe" button. I hope you like what I have planned for Thursday.

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John Schaberg's avatar

Someone should start on the grief bot for our dear leader. Lots of video to mine. He will die - eventually - and you could charge by the hour.

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Quentin Hardy's avatar

Please do not feed or annoy, or give ideas to.

Wouldn't be a tough loop to engineer: Anything good happens, it's totally his doing and gooder than anything before; anything bad happens, it's not his fault.

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Exogenous, Inc.'s avatar

Quentin: What you are calling "teleology" is otherwise known as *final* cause -- only one of FOUR suggested by Aristotle in his "Physics" (c. 300 BC). The others are *formal* (the most important one), *material* (the origin of today's "complexity") and *efficient* (or what many think of as "cause-and-effect").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_causes

The abandonment of Causes in the West cannot be sustained. It leads to all sorts of "scientific" mistakes and the brutal substitution of "statistics" in situations where causality has been totally ignored. The problem is "modernity" (in all its forms) and Digital technology is closing the book on that detour. Now we're "retrieving" the Scribal sensibility and *causality* along with it . . . !!

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Quentin Hardy's avatar

Yeah on Aristotle. He also thought heavier bodies fell faster through the air, and had a rather different sense of how reality is organized (a pantheon of hyperemotional gods, assuming he bought into the dominant sensibility.) Like I said, that's a different culture in a different time. Various Eastern philosophies and ideas about social governance are closer to our system of eternal middles, but again, they are not the same, neither in spirit or on the respective focus of materiality.

If our society is unsustainable, that is one thing that would be like all civilizations that came before. Still, we have a unique capability to see and address our problems effectively. Which is to say, we are the first civilization to fully project how it might end, and the first to have the means to turn away from that. Whether that matters is still an open question.

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